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Drummer, composer, educator Marlon Simon

DN: Hi Marlon, welcome back to the musical scene, we at latinjazznet.com are very excited about your return and avid to know more about your upcoming projects. At the same time, we’d like to share your thoughts with our followers. Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.

MS: Greetings Danilo, I hope this message find you well and in good spirits. First of all I would like to thank you and the entire team at latinjazznet.com for the opportunity and all your support towards the Latin Jazz fans and musicians. I believe you do a great job for a good cause. Yes, after some years away from the music scene I feel ready to come back. I say ready because I have learned through the years that to keep the clarity of our intentions on any field, sometimes we need to distance ourselves from the daily life routine and do some internal search. I believe this is due to the fact that we do not live in the right environment as humans, this is causing much discomfort and suffering nowadays in our society. Keep in mind that this is my personal point of view, I cannot speak for everybody. Most people “go with the wind” without hesitation and are pleased to do that because that’s all they need to go through life. However, when you are able to reach a point that allows you to perceive above all mental patterns, society rules, ideologies and belief systems, only then, you realize that “every human, every town, every country and the entire universe is exactly where it needs to be at in its evolution process”. With that said I can say that I am now ready for a fresh return to the scene with new musical ideas and concepts that are coming to my mind at this time. I am writing new music that includes a wide spectrum of styles. If we need to label it, it will be a blend of elements of classical musical, African rhythms and Jazz improvisation.

Drummer, Composer, Educator Marlon Simon
Drummer, Composer, Educator Marlon Simon

First of all, tell me about your band The Nagual Spirits, with which you recorded several albums. It was a tremendous ensemble, with top notch artists, masters of their instruments and experienced, seasoned performers.

After working as a side man with various Latin Jazz artists that I feel I should mention, not to build a resume but to let you know that all of them in a way helped me discover The Nagual Spirits. I say this because I feel that artists like Hilton Ruiz, Jerry González, Charles Fambrough and Bobby Watson among others had an influence on me towards awakening the initial desire to do my own project. Please allow me to elaborate more on this. As a side man, you have the responsibility to give the leaders what they want plus, and most important, the essence of what you have to offer to contribute to their music, and during that process you come to mature and perceive that there is part of you that need to erupt musically, that is who you are in essence and when you reach that point you need to create your own musical project. It is a process that includes the performing for others that moves you. That’s how The Nagual Spirits was born in 1997. Yes, my first record came out in 1998 for the K-jazz record company. It was after a recording with Charles Fambrough where I was able to give some positive input to improve the session that Dennis Sheppard, the executive director came to me one day and said, Marlon…. you should make your own record. I had just obtained my BA in Jazz and contemporary music and had some fresh musical ideas in my mind. So, I surrounded myself with some of the musicians that moved my spirit when I heard them play, like Bobby Watson, Brian Lynch, Jerry González, John Stubblefield and my brother Edward Simon, giving birth to my first record, The Music of Marlon Simon and the Nagual Spirits. It was a learning experience for me… I did the best I could with the tools I had at that time. This record was the seed that planted what later on became the core group of The Nagual Spirits. I believe the universe is always moving towards perfection attracting people that share a common frequency. The following musicians are an example of the result of what can be accomplished when you become conscious of what is important and what is not. These musicians sacrificed many things, they were there for me for the sake of music and nothing else, and I am always grateful for their contribution to The Nagual Spirits message.

YouTube Audio – Heidy – The Music of Marlon Simon and the Nagual Spirits

Who were the members of The Nagual Spirits when you formed the band?

Tenor Saxophonist Peter Brainin, one of the most important Jazz musicians in the New York scene for the past 30 years. Trumpeter Alex Norris, he will play anything you put in front of him with the highest level of maturity. Pianist Edward Simon, brother Edward has his own voice that was discovered by Kevin Eubanks and Bobby Watson at an early age, making since then a huge contribution to Jazz music, as a sideman and leader. Pianist Luis Perdomo, another example of what I call natural talent, in full command of his instrument in all aspects. Bassist Boris Kozlov. It’s amazing what a strong desire to learn an authentic music style can lead you to, Boris is “the Only Russian with clave”. Bassist Michael Boone, one of the most important figures in the Philadelphia jazz music scene for the past 30 years and an unconditional friend and nagual supporter. Percussionist Roberto Quintero, from San Agustin del Sur, Caracas, Venezuela. Roberto is one of the most solid conga players today. Percussionist and “tamborero mayor” Román Diaz will bring the essence of the sacred spirit to any music style. It’s a good felling when you accomplish something with the people you admire. After a couple of years our efforts gave birth to the internationally acclaimed Rumba a la Patato, opening doors to other paths, and I could say it was the beginning of a search for a new voice as a band. The Nagual Spirits earned the responsibility to present international concerts representing the excellence and integrity of the musical art forms born in the USA, a program sponsored by the Department of State, and then we recorded Live in La Paz, Bolivia, traveled to Canada and The Netherland Antilles.

What are the plans, let me paraphrase this, what is the vision you have in mind for this new phase with The Nagual Spirits?

The vision is a work in progress. I am trying to stretch the limits as a sextet with some more adventurous concepts and elements of surprise but always saying a story through the music. To create new music with some substance nowadays I believe you have to isolate yourself from what’s going on commercially out there. One thing is music for sale, and another is music as a way of creative expression. These are two very different concepts and I feel that we as artists and musicians have no choice but to create if we want to grow, but be aware that this creation must come in an spontaneous way, at least in my personal experience I learned to perceive when the proper moment comes to channel those ideas and be able to put them on paper. That’s a phase of the process, then comes each musician responsible to express himself as part of the entire creative process, to me is an esoteric magical expression and that’s the vision I have of The Nagual Spirits… actually to put this in words is not possible, since our vocabulary is limited to our thoughts and this creative process is not a product of thoughts. Sure, you can apply musical theory and rules that require some thoughts and learned musical forms, but the essence of creative music has nothing to do with thoughts.

YouTube Audio – Home Coming – Marlon Simon and the Nagual Spirits: Live in Bolivia

You will also continue working with your brothers, Edward (piano) and Michael (trumpet). You call this project Simon, Simon and Simon: Evolution of a Dynasty. Tell me more about this family project.

The Simon, Simon and Simon project is the result of a dream from an extraordinary spirit in the body of a man called Hadsy Simon, our father. It was back in the nineties when we first went to Curaçao supported by the Curaçao Jazz Foundation and the initiative of our father… We owe this project to him, his legacy, Hadsy was an advanced soul in this planet, and he had a vision of the future, he took the proper decisions for him and us at the right time. He was a Nagual on his own right, many times misunderstood by the average minds that are predominant in today’s society. To know more about his message I suggest you to read his book “Consciousness is all there is”. The day I got that call from my sister Heidy Simon saying he had departed… I felt my life would change forever and it did. I now live based on his values, principles, not only because he was my father, but because I feel is the right way to live. So Simon, Simon and Simon came to be as a result of this honest, humble, lovable man of knowledge, Hadsy Simon. When the three brothers get together to perform, I perceive a peculiar musical substance, a legacy of three genuine musicians who had devoted their lives to this form of art. A good example of this is my younger brother Michael Simon’s record entitled New York Encounter (Fresh Sound Records 2009). To me one of the best authentic Latin Jazz albums recorded based on modern compositions of the highest caliber. Listen to it and no more words will need to be said.

Left to right: Edward Simon, Michael Simon, Marlon Simon
Left to right: Edward Simon, Michael Simon, Marlon Simon

I would like to know a bit more about your latest two projects, which you developed in Europe, specifically in France, where you lived for some time: the Marlon Simon French Venezuelan Project and the Marlon Simon Latin Jazz French Project.

Somehow percussionist Marc Glomeau was able to buy the record Rumba a la Patato in France, and he liked it so much that he ended up contacting me, seeking the opportunity for me to come to France specifically to offer some workshops to his band on Afro Caribbean rhythms and to further explain the Nagual concept of Latin Jazz and compositions. Marco concentrated his efforts on this project and was able to get some funds. I really admire him and the entire band called Black Chantilly for their vision and dedication. I traveled to France for several years offering classes and instructions to their band until we reached the level to be able to record some of the nagual music. It was an intense experience that gave birth to the Marlon Simon French Latin Jazz Project album, recorded live in 2004. We recorded tunes like “Ericka”, “Blues pa’ Changuito”, you can hear an honest spirit on their interpretations. Later on Marco came with the idea of making a record that would combine French and Venezuelan Folkloric music. He proposed the project to several arts organizations in France and once again was able to get some funds from the government and private supporters of creative projects. I had to do some research on French Folkloric music discovering some similarities with Venezuelan music that led me to create a new repertory utilizing Gilles Chabenat’s Hurdy-gurdy (a stringed instrument that produces sound by a hand crank-turned, rosined wheel rubbing against the strings ) at the core of the musical pieces and arrangements, creating a unique style in which jazz merges with the colors of two popular cultures largely unknown to the general public. The French Venezuelan Project “Racines” (Raíces) challenged my limitations as composer and arranger at that time, resulting in a recording charged with different expressions of emotions and unique musical messages. I am very proud of that album. You can still get those records online.

YouTube Audio – Blues Pa’ Changuito – Black Chantilly & Marlon Simon: AfroCuban Live!

You are a distinguished, recognized and awarded educator, and I understand you are following that path, side by side with your work as a composer and performer. Please elaborate on this aspect of your career.

I came to the USA for a second time in 1987 at the age of 27, with the purpose of obtaining my musical degree and being able to make a living performing jazz music. I took my first formal drum lesson at the age of 28, it was not that easy… After graduating from school I had to take all kind of day jobs, I loaded and unloaded trucks, worked in factories, landscaping and construction to be able to pay my rent, keep a roof so I could practice my instrument after a ten hours day job. This went on for several years as I started to play locally in New York and Philadelphia. I had to find a way to legally stay in the USA and I became associated with AMLA, Latin American Musicians Association in Philadelphia. They sponsored me to get my permanent residency, in exchange I created a guide for percussionists and started to teach musical notation at the organization located in North Philadelphia. The executive director at that time, Mr. Jessy Bermúdez was one of the guys who motivated me to teach and we created the most important musical movement in North Philadelphia at that time. He was able to get me a grant to go to Cuba to do research on the influence of Cuban music in American Jazz. I was able to study with top scholars in Cuba. I have always been a Cuban music admirer and the way they support and represent their culture and values across the world. Coming back to the USA I created a percussion ensemble for AMLA and performed around Philadelphia. That was my initial spark to start working with larger organizations as an instructor of Afro Caribbean rhythms, giving hundreds of workshops, residencies and master classes at numerous high schools, colleges and universities in the Tri-State area. I was awarded with a medal of honor from the governor of the state of New Jersey for my contribution to music education and then the list grew on with awards in composition, education and other prizes in the field.

Your albums with The Nagual Spirits have been praised as innovative and very creative, delving deeply into the realm of Jazz, Latin, Afro-Venezuelan and Afro-Cuban jazz. We recently published a review of Rumba a la Patato in our section of Essential Albums Revisited. This is a recording that many of your followers consider a classic Latin Jazz album, a “must-have” in a jazz library. Do you agree with this recognition?

Well, I knew Rumba a la Patato represented a big step towards finding my own voice and a voice for The Nagual Spirits. I was definitely more mature and had been doing gigs with other jazz greats. I had the opportunity to play and record with Chucho Valdés and that forced me to see the long road I had ahead as per concept to develop. On Rumba a la Patato I had one of my musical mentors, bassist Andy González, on the band, and having this caliber of bassist on a Latin Jazz record just takes the music to another level. To this I must add having the compositions of my younger brother Michael, “Humble and innocent” and “Tranquil mood”. These compositions also changed the direction of this CD to a more sophisticated Latin Jazz at that time. Sometimes people with the right ears made comments that would make you think about it. It was my friend, follower of The Nagual Spirits and jazz critic Fósforo Sequera, who also produces a jazz radio program in Venezuela called “La Caja de Fósforo” who once told me: “Marlon… the record Rumba a la Patato is a classic… I did not know what he meant at that time but later on I thought about those words and departing from what a classic means, I judged over a period of time that it was one of a kind, outstanding recording. I tend to agree but I definitely value more the opinion of some critics and historians than my own on this case. For example on his recent Rumba a la Patato review, jazz writer Raul Da Gama made some interesting comments about my composition “Songo Pa’ Monk”, showing that he knows what he is talking about since this composition has a complex harmonic progression that requires of a knowledgeable jazz improviser to solo on top of the changes and understand the Latin rhythms on the percussion section. I often wish there were more people with those ears so we could have more supporters of this type of music.

YouTube Audio – Songo Pa’ Monk – Marlon Simon and the Nagual Spirits: Rumba a la Patato

Do you have a preference for another of your albums with The Nagual Spirits?

Do I have a preference for another Nagual album?… Well, from my point of view, the album In Case You Missed It is my best work so far with The Nagual Spirits. I believe the combination of the string quartet and the batá drums opening arrangement to the Orishas is a beautiful tribute. One of my all times favorite jazz tunes “In Case You Missed It” composed by Bobby Watson, performed in a Nagual style gives you a perfect example of how jazz and Latin music come from Mother Africa, and the intelligent arrangement to my composition “Root Medley” made by my brother Michael just took that record to another level. However, I prefer to leave those comments to the scholars and critics who have the ears to be able to perceive the Nagual message.

YouTube Audio – In Case You Missed It – Marlon Simon and the Nagual Spirits

Once again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us and with our readers. Is there anything else you would like to add to conclude this conversation?

I would like to take the opportunity that latinjazznet.com is giving me to express my gratitude to all Latin Jazz supporters. It is a hard path to produce high quality music nowadays. I really admire and appreciate the support of all musicians and fan supporters of this art form in a society invaded by the idea of consumerism of average to low quality music. I encourage you all to follow the path that has a heart… to me the only path worth following in life.

Web publisher, music journalist, cultural connector, and arts administrator. Founder and editor-in-chief of Latin Jazz Network, World Music Report, That Canadian Magazine, Jazzdagama, and co-founder of Jazzdelapena. Based in Toronto, Canada, he is a passionate communicator and committed arts advocate.

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Inside Cortadito: José Guzmán’s Intimate Snapshot of Afro-Caribbean Heritage

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Puerto Rican Guitarist José Guzmán
Puerto Rican Guitarist and Leader of The Afro-Caribbean Jazz Collective José Guzmán

Introduction: The Rhythmic Map of José Guzmán

For guitarist and composer José Guzmán, the distance between the academic rigours of a Doctoral degree and the street-level pulse of a Puerto Rican bomba circle is non-existent. Born and raised in Ponce, Guzmán has spent his career translating the “hard 90-degree pivot” from rock-and-roll to jazz into a sophisticated, percussion-driven language. His latest project with The Afro-Caribbean Jazz Collective, Cortadito, serves as a vibrant proof of concept for his “drum-first” philosophy—an approach that demands the composer master the hand drums before ever picking up the pen.

In Cortadito, Guzmán departs from the traditional jazz quintet by daringly removing the drumset entirely. By centring the barril and congas, he creates a sonic space that smells of the Caribbean sea and feels like the cobblestones of Old San Juan. It is an intimate, unfiltered snapshot of heritage that balances the intensity of son montuno and songo with the tender, lived-in emotions of the bolero.

In this candid conversation, Guzmán opens up about the “flying without a net” energy of the Collective, his responsibility to the legacy of masters like Rafael Cortijo and William Cepeda and why he believes that to truly play Latin Jazz, you must first learn to speak through the skin of the drum.

Cortadito Album Artwork by Alejandro Rodríguez
Cortadito Album Artwork by Alejandro Rodríguez

“The title Cortadito is a snapshot of my heritage and upbringing… I was flooded with memories of the mountain view from my home in Ponce, the cobblestones in Old San Juan…”

On Cortadito (2025 JGB Music)

Cortadito has clearly resonated with critics and audiences alike—what was the central artistic vision behind this album, and how does it build on or depart from Fiesta at Caroga?

 Fiesta at Caroga was a great way to find my artistic voice, while Cortadito has refined my vision. After Fiesta at Caroga, I felt that I needed to connect the audience with my Puerto Rican roots. I composed tunes that put the Puerto Rican folkloric rhythms of bomba front and center (“Holande Pa Uste” and “Witches Dance”) while expanding on our repertoire with son montunos, cha cha, boleros, and songo. 

The title Cortadito evokes something intimate yet culturally specific. What does the title represent for you musically and personally?

It’s a snapshot of my heritage and upbringing. As I wrote the music for the album, I was flooded with memories of the mountain view from my home in Ponce, the cobblestones in Old San Juan, and the smell of the Caribbean sea. The imagery of the empty coffee mug in the album cover, the intensity of the music, and the gentleness of boleros are staples on the island.

Can you walk us through your compositional process for this album? Did the pieces emerge from rhythmic concepts, harmonic ideas, or lived experiences?

A mixture of all of the above. I purchased several percussion instruments (congas, Puerto Rican barril, etc) and dove headfirst into learning the lineage of the drum and playing all the patterns that I write music for. If I can’t play it, I won’t write it. It was common to hear teachers at the Puerto Rico Conservatory say, “to play Latin jazz, you gotta play the hand drums,” and that is common to hear in interviews of the masters as well. Some ideas came to me as I practiced my basic patterns and became useful with the help of practice tools such as Agustin Espina’s Latin Percussion Grooves or the mobile app PercussionTutor.

As for the lived experiences portion, it’s very personal storytelling. The idea for Roberto Cantoral’s “El Reloj” came to me as I took care of my father before he passed away, and I always dedicate the song to my audience because we all share that feeling of losing a loved one. Others, such as “A Sunny Kind of Day” and “Orchard Downs,” are based on my day-to-day life experiences in Puerto Rico and the state of Illinois.

How did you approach balancing Afro-Caribbean rhythmic traditions with modern jazz language on this recording?

While I was writing, I felt a strong responsibility to write melodies that swing with the clave, the drum patterns, and, at times, the dancer. The harmonic canvas tends to reveal itself afterwards. My writing process varies; at times I’ll have a melody come to mind, record a voice memo (or more), and then I’ll find the rhythm that fits. Other times, I’ll play the drums and let the pattern lead me to a new melody. 

Were there particular tracks on Cortadito that presented unique challenges or breakthroughs during recording?

Recording is always tedious because, unlike playing live music and the “flying without a net” feeling that comes with it, you can easily get stuck in your head, striving to create a good product. I am lucky enough to say that I surrounded myself with very positive friends who were also enthusiastic in the process. “El Volcán” and “Holandé Pa Usté” were challenging but fun to record.

The ACJC – Photo by Herminio Rodríguez

“I am building on the foundation laid out by Rafael Cortijo’s Time Machine and William Cepeda… pushing the boundaries of what was Latin jazz at the moment of publication.”

On Musical Identity & Heritage

Your music reflects a deep connection to Puerto Rican rhythms. How do you translate traditional forms into a contemporary jazz context without losing their essence?

As a fan of salsa music and traditional folklore, I wanted to keep the dance aspect of the Afro-Caribbean rhythmic traditions and adorn it with melodies that percolate from the hand drums. Even the decision of not having a drumset in the recording was made in an effort for the percussion section to shine and pop out. In live shows, I’ll have drummers set up a timbale/drumset similar to what Samuel Formell (Los Van Van drummer and leader) uses, but I still prefer the timbales with a kick drum for the studio.

During the barril solo on “Witches Dance”, I actually had someone come into the studio and dance a traditional bomba improvisation for the drummer to play to. Having that solo kept the spirit of the dancer, which was really important for me.

Growing up in Ponce, Puerto Rico, what early musical influences shaped your identity as a guitarist and composer?

My influences are a wide spectrum of genres. I grew up listening to Fania Records, Puerto Rican folklore artists, and the boleros of El Trio Los Panchos, but in my teenage years, I learned guitar by playing classic rock and mid 90’s trending rock bands. By then, I found myself playing in several rock bands with my neighbors, writing music and playing shows. It wasn’t until I was 18 years old when I discovered Al Di Meola, Paco de Lucia, and John McLaughlin’s Saturday Night in San Francisco that I pivoted to jazz, and that pivot was a hard 90 degrees into the genre. 

How do you see your work contributing to the broader narrative of Afro-Caribbean jazz today?

I am building on the foundation laid out by Rafael Cortijo’s Time Machine (1973) and William Cepeda’s Puerto Rican jazz discography (1992 onwards), to name a few. Both artists focused on bringing the rhythms of bomba and plena into the jazz realm, pushing the boundaries of what was Latin jazz at the moment of publication. 

Puerto Rican Guitarist José Guzmán

“The beautiful (and intimidating) part about the Collective is the rotating cast of musicians… in 2025 alone, we collaborated with over 40 musicians across 8 states.”

On Bandleading & The Afro-Caribbean Jazz Collective

As the leader of The Afro-Caribbean Jazz Collective, what qualities do you prioritize when assembling and directing your ensemble?

If we think of it as a pyramid, sight reading is at the top, followed by improvisational skills (especially over clave), and well-rounded musicianship. This is because we don’t get a chance to rehearse as much as I’d like to, so it’s crucial to get the melody and form with as little or no rehearsal time. Currently, I have a core group that travels with me, and I’ll pick up musicians who live in the area we are visiting. I gravitate towards players who play or have played in salsa bands, and the results are always fun!

Your group has developed a strong identity over several albums—how has the band evolved since its inception?

The beautiful (and intimidating) part about the Collective is the rotating cast of musicians who are well-versed in Latin jazz while also exposing strong musicians to playing clave music. This serves as a place for players to grow, as well as my own growth by receiving feedback from Victor Garcia, Roy McGrath, Tito Carillo, Zach Rich, and Matt Shevitz. This is also due to the size of the group and the hectic schedule of musicians with families and other priorities. In 2025 alone, the Collective collaborated with over 40 musicians while playing across 8 states.

What does collaboration look like within the Collective? Do your band members contribute to arrangements or compositional ideas?

It’s always evolving. When I started the ensemble, I would have people bring in arrangements. The last track in Cortadito (“El Volcán”) was written and arranged by tenor sax player Brian Stark. Brian is a strong composer and arranger for a big band, and I fell in love with the tune. Trombonist Ben Carrasquillo is the arranger of our EP version of Nat King Cole’s “Love for Sale”. Several musicians have asked me about writing for the ensemble, and I always welcome it, but I won’t pressure folks to write. Ever since the release of Fiesta at Caroga, I usually consult ideas with members, bring the arrangements to a show, and members will contribute with ideas to enhance the melodic weight or sections.

The Afro-Caribbean Jazz Collective – Photo: Facebook

On Education & Artistic Development

You’ve pursued extensive academic training—from the Puerto Rico Conservatory to a DMA in Jazz Guitar Performance. How has your formal education shaped your artistic voice?

It was very important in my development since my early years as a guitarist were a combination of playing my favorite songs at home and jamming songs with my neighbor, no music theory or formal lessons. The Conservatory is where I developed the foundation for playing jazz and my first exposure to listening to classical music (chamber and orchestral) on a daily basis. Southern Illinois University in Carbondale exposed me to writing atonal music, taught me to analyze it, and provided me with my first opportunity to write for a big band every couple of months. At the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, I got to write a lot of songs and arrangements for a robust instrumentation guided by a faculty whose legacy is found in albums by Arturo Sandoval, Woody Herman, and many more. The latter also taught me the value of research in academic settings, and I am interested in adding the Afro-Puerto Rican voice to that conversation as well.

As someone deeply rooted in both performance and composition, how do you balance intellectual rigour with emotional expression in your music?

Writing music is similar to writing stories; there’s a narrative that makes an audience feel. For me, there has to be a connection between ideas and not just juxtaposing melodic ideas to create sections. If I can sing the melody while playing clave or drums, then I move forward. My favorite tool when composing is the eraser, especially when overcomplicating melodic statements or when I get a bad case of writer’s block.

On Career & Looking Ahead

You’ve worked across genres—from jazz to chamber music to rock—and collaborated with diverse artists. How have these experiences influenced your approach as a bandleader?

It exposes me to different approaches of ensemble performing, ways of conducting an ensemble, addressing the audience, learning about the music industry from peers, and exchanging arranging techniques that would’ve been “learned” from a book. These projects also influenced my thought process when composing, creating a setlist, and deciding what to do (or not) in the bandstand, and it allows me to get comfortable being on stage.

Looking ahead, what new directions or projects are you most excited to explore with The Afro-Caribbean Jazz Collective?

The success of Cortadito has given me the confidence to continue to write a lot of music. I’m excited to go back into the studio in the summer to record new music that is exclusively focused on bomba rhythms alongside Chicago-based bomba ensemble Colectivo Sayba. I’m also writing new tunes for a separate recording session in a similar vibe to Cortadito.

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Inside Maracanós: Ricardo Bacelar on Friendship, Freedom and Brazilian Identity

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Ricardo Bacelar & Airto Moreira - Photo credit Maria Bacelar
Ricardo Bacelar and Airto Moreira - Photo credit: Maria Bacelar

Brazilian pianist, composer and producer Ricardo Bacelar opens up about Maracanós, his ambitious new collaboration with legendary percussionist Airto Moreira and special guest Flora Purim.

In this exclusive interview, Bacelar reflects on how the album emerged organically during the filming of a documentary at Jasmin Music’s studio in Fortaleza (the capital of Ceará, a state located in northeastern Brazil), where creativity flowed through improvisation, friendship and artistic trust. He discusses building what he calls “a film without images,” blending Brazilian rhythms, orchestral textures, electronics and spontaneous musical interaction.

Bacelar also speaks about Airto’s enduring legacy, Flora’s spiritual vocal presence, the symbolism behind the album title, and why protecting artistic freedom in an algorithm-driven music industry remains essential.

“Art needs risk, surprise, contradiction, silence and emotional density,” Bacelar says.

Read our full conversation on Maracanós, one of the most adventurous Brazilian jazz releases of the year.

Airto Moreira - Photo credit Maria Bacelar
Airto Moreira – Photo credit: Maria Bacelar

“Airto approaches music with the spirit of a child discovering sound for the first time.”

Maracanós brings you together with the legendary Airto Moreira, one of the most influential Brazilian musicians in jazz history. How did this collaboration first come about, and what made this the right moment for you both to create an album together?

This collaboration emerged very naturally through our friendship and through the documentary project we were developing around Airto and Flora at Jasmin Studio. During the filming sessions, we spent many hours together inside the studio environment, talking about music, listening to sounds, and experimenting with rhythms and textures. At a certain point, the creative process itself became stronger than the original plan. We realized there was an album being born there organically.

I believe the timing was special because we were all completely open artistically. Airto carries an extraordinary musical freedom, and I was interested in creating a sonic universe where Brazilian music, improvisation, cinematic atmospheres, and contemporary production could coexist without limitations. Maracanós became the result of that encounter.

You’ve described the project as being born organically during the filming of the documentary. Can you take us back to those sessions at Jasmin Studio in Fortaleza and describe the atmosphere that led to the creation of Maracanós?

The atmosphere was extremely creative and immersive. Airto and Flora stayed with us in Fortaleza for an extended period, and the studio became almost like a living organism. Music happened all day long. Sometimes ideas would emerge during rehearsals, sometimes during conversations, and many times while the cameras were rolling.

Jasmin Studio is inside my home, so there is a very human and intimate dimension to the recordings. We were surrounded by Brazilian light, food, conversations, nature, silence, and deep musical exchange. That emotional proximity created trust, and trust creates freedom. I think you can hear that spirit throughout the album.

The album appears to embrace freedom, spontaneity and experimentation, qualities that have defined Airto’s career for decades. How did you balance structured composition with improvisational freedom during the recording process?

For me, composition and improvisation are not opposites. They complement each other. Some pieces began with harmonic structures or rhythmic ideas I brought to the sessions, but once the musicians entered the emotional space of the music, we allowed the compositions to breathe.

Airto has an incredible instinct. He transforms rhythm into narrative. So I tried to create an environment where spontaneity could happen without losing the identity of the pieces. We recorded many moments in a very open way, preserving imperfections, interactions and

emotional reactions. That human unpredictability became part of the language of the album.

Your production approach combines acoustic instruments, synthesizers, percussion and strings in a very cinematic way. What was your sonic vision for Maracanós, and how did you build that immersive soundscape?

I wanted the album to feel almost like a film without images. A sonic landscape where Brazilian rhythms could coexist with orchestral textures, electronic atmospheres, improvisation and silence.

The production was built very carefully inside Jasmin Studio, which is designed for immersive audio and deep acoustic detail. We used analog and digital elements together, combining percussion layers, piano, synthesizers, strings and spatial textures, almost like painting with sound.

I’m very interested in emotional depth and timbre. Sometimes a texture can say more than a melody. The immersive aspect of the production became fundamental in creating this sensation of movement, memory and atmosphere.

Ricardo Bacelar & Airto Moreira - Photo credit Maria Bacelar
Ricardo Bacelar & Airto Moreira – Photo credit: Maria Bacelar

“Flora transforms emotion into sound very naturally… Airto approaches music with the spirit of a child discovering sound for the first time… They have an almost telepathic connection.”

Flora Purim makes a special appearance on “Voo da Tarde.” What did she bring to that track creatively, and what was it like having both Flora and Airto together in the studio?

Flora brings something very unique. She transforms emotion into sound very naturally. Her voice carries spirituality, freedom and an unmistakable musical identity. On “Voo da Tarde,” she added a dreamlike dimension that elevated the piece emotionally.

Having Flora and Airto together in the studio was deeply inspiring. They have lived and created music together for more than six decades, and there is an almost telepathic connection between them. Sometimes they communicated musically with just a glance. Witnessing that inside the studio was very moving.

Airto is receiving the prestigious National Endowment for the Arts honour this year. Did working so closely with him give you new insights into why his influence on jazz and Brazilian music remains so profound?

Absolutely. What impressed me most was not only his musical genius but his permanent curiosity. Airto approaches music with the spirit of a child discovering sound for the first time. He is always searching, always experimenting.

His influence goes far beyond percussion. He expanded the vocabulary of rhythm inside jazz and brought Brazilian musical identity into a truly global conversation without losing authenticity. Working closely with him made me understand even more deeply how innovation and freedom are connected in his artistic philosophy.

The title Maracanós is intriguing. What is the story behind the album’s title, and what does it symbolize artistically or culturally?

The title was created by Airto Moreira himself, and I love the poetic and symbolic dimension it carries. Maracanós combines the words “maraca”, “Maracanã”, and the pronoun “nós”, which means “we” in Portuguese. The title, therefore, brings together rhythm, Brazilian identity, collectivity and movement at the same time.

There is something deeply Brazilian in the sound of the word, but also something open and universal. It evokes percussion, nature, birds, popular energy, community and encounter. I think this perfectly reflects the spirit of the album, a musical encounter built collectively through friendship, freedom, improvisation and cultural exchange.

Ricardo Bacelar & Airto Moreira - Maracanós (album cover art)
Album cover artwork by Fernando França

“Maracanós represents friendship, freedom, improvisation and cultural exchange.”

The Kalimera String Quartet appears on two tracks with arrangements by Liduíno Pitombeira. Why was it important to incorporate strings into this project, and how did they expand the album’s musical vocabulary?

The strings introduced another emotional layer to the album. I wanted certain moments to have greater harmonic depth and cinematic expansion, almost like opening a new emotional horizon inside the music.

Liduíno Pitombeira created arrangements with enormous sensitivity. He understands both classical language and Brazilian musical phrasing, which allowed the quartet to interact organically with percussion, improvisation and the rhythmic complexity of the album.

Your label, Jasmin Music, has become an important platform for Brazilian artists across multiple generations. How does Maracanós reflect your broader vision as a producer and label founder?

Maracanós reflects very clearly what I believe Jasmin Music represents: artistic freedom, sonic excellence, cultural identity and creative risk.

I’m interested in building projects that preserve musical depth and emotional truth. We live in a time where music is often reduced to speed and algorithms. Jasmin was created to protect artistic identity and long-form musical experiences. This album embodies that philosophy completely.

Airto mentioned using his voice throughout the sessions in spontaneous ways when he wasn’t playing percussion. Were there moments during the recording process that surprised you creatively?

Many moments surprised me. Airto uses his voice almost as an extension of rhythm and emotion. Sometimes he would suddenly begin vocalizing textures or rhythmic ideas while listening to playback, and those moments became part of the atmosphere of the recordings.

There was a constant sense of discovery in the studio. Some of the most beautiful moments happened unexpectedly.

The album moves away from commercial formulas and embraces artistic risk. In today’s music industry, where algorithms often shape listening habits, how important is it for you to protect creative freedom?

For me, creative freedom is essential. Music cannot exist only to satisfy algorithms or consumption patterns. Art needs risk, surprise, contradiction, silence and emotional density.

I believe audiences still deeply desire authenticity. Perhaps the industry sometimes underestimates listeners. My commitment is to create music that has identity and emotional permanence, even if it follows a more difficult commercial path.

Airto Moreira - Photo credit Maria Bacelar
Airto Moreira – Photo credit: Maria Bacelar

“Music still has the power to create emotional bridges between cultures, generations and human experiences.”

The upcoming documentary directed by Jom Tob Azulay adds another dimension to this project. What can audiences expect from the film that they may not hear on the album itself?

The film reveals the human and emotional dimension behind the music. Audiences will witness the creative process in real time: conversations, rehearsals, improvisations, memories, tensions, humor, affection and the intimacy of artistic creation.

It is not only a documentary about music. It is also about friendship, artistic legacy, exile, Brazil, spirituality and the passage of time.

You’ve collaborated with artists such as Gilberto Gil, Roberto Menescal, Toninho Horta and many others. Where does Maracanós fit within your artistic evolution?

I see Maracanós as one of the most mature and free projects of my career. It synthesizes many things I’ve explored throughout the years: Brazilian harmony, cinematic language, sophisticated production, improvisation and emotional storytelling.

At the same time, it opened new creative doors. Working closely with Airto and Flora expanded my perception of spontaneity and musical freedom.

The album cover artwork by Fernando França reflects a symbolic connection between Brazil and Africa. How important was visual storytelling in shaping the identity of this release?

Visual identity is extremely important to me. I see albums as complete artistic objects, not only collections of songs.

Fernando França created images that connect mythology, ancestry, Brazil, Africa and spirituality in a very powerful way. The artwork reflects the same emotional and symbolic layers that exist in the music itself.

Finally, what do you hope listeners around the world take away from Maracanós, especially those discovering your music, or perhaps even Airto and Flora’s legacy, for the first time?

I hope listeners feel an emotional connection and freedom. I hope the album invites people into a deeper listening experience, where music becomes atmosphere, memory and emotion.

For younger audiences discovering Airto and Flora, I hope Maracanós reveals the timelessness of their artistic vision. For those discovering my work through this project, I hope they perceive the commitment to authenticity, sonic beauty and Brazilian musical identity.

I believe music still has the power to create emotional bridges between cultures, generations and human experiences. That is ultimately what Maracanós represents for me.

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Estrella Acosta Charts New Paths on “Caminos – A Latin American Landscape”

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Estrella Acosta - Photo by Paul van Riel
Cuban Vocalist Estrella Acosta - Photo by Paul van Riel

Amsterdam-based Cuban-born vocalist Estrella Acosta continues to expand her artistic horizons with Caminos – A Latin American Landscape, a vibrant and far-reaching recording with her ensemble Esquina 25. A Latin Grammy nominee, Acosta has long been celebrated for her deep connection to Cuban and Brazilian traditions. With Caminos, she goes further—tracing a musical map that spans the breadth of Latin America.

From Mexico to Argentina, and from Afro-Caribbean grooves to Brazilian lyricism, the album embraces what Acosta describes as “music without borders,” brought to life through a collective of international musicians based in the Netherlands.

With Caminos, Estrella Acosta and her band Esquina 25 offer more than a collection of songs—they present a living, breathing dialogue across cultures, traditions, and musical languages. It is a project that doesn’t simply travel across Latin America—it connects it.

In Caminos, Estrella Acosta paints a musical landscape of Latin American traditions. She takes you on the road to experience songs from her motherland as well as Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, Peru and Uruguay, all the way to Argentina. You will hear in this album formats ranging from intimate duos to bigger sounds with her band Esquina 25 and special guests, bringing the listener a variety of rhythms and creative arrangements. Music to listen to and dance to!

In this conversation, Acosta reflects on artistic identity, collaboration, and the evolving language of Latin jazz.

Caminos – A Latin American Landscape
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Estrella Acosta "Caminos - A Latin American Landscape"
Estrella Acosta “Caminos – A Latin American Landscape”

“Caminos – A Latin American Landscape is about movement—not just geographically, but emotionally and culturally.”

Caminos feels deeply personal. Was there a specific moment or realization that set this project in motion for you?

Over the years, I’ve had the opportunity to discover and sing many songs from Latin America while living in the USA, Europe and also during my travels through Central and South America. Being a voting member of the Latin Recording Academy, every year during voting season, I have the chance to listen to a great variety of music by its members. This has expanded my horizons and revived my interest in exploring the folklore and music from this part of the American continent.

As a musician and anthropologist, I always like to go back to the past, dig into the roots and check out the music of people around the planet. In the past, I explored the music of Cuba and Brazil, and now I want to get closer to other countries of the Americas. Luckily, I could form a band, Esquina 25, consisting of excellent international musicians who understand its character and spirit – they speak the language of these various traditions.

For this album, the first song that caught my attention was ‘Que Nadie Sepa mi Sufrir’, also known as ‘Amor de mis Amores’, which was written in 1927 as a Peruvian waltz by an Argentinian composer, Angel Cabral, with lyrics by Enrique Dizeo. The song was first popularized by Argentinians Hugo del Carril and Alberto Castillo, and then recorded by many more singers. In 1957, with French lyrics by Michel Rivgauche, Edith Piaf made it a big hit in Europe. Of course, what fascinated me about this song was its beautiful melody and lyrics, and the challenge was to make this song, which had been recorded by so many artists, our own. I asked one of my favorite arrangers, Venezuelan trumpetist Michael Simon, to create something different. He wanted some spoken words in it, so this allowed me to feature my mom reciting a few lines of poetry. This song got my project in motion.

Living in Amsterdam as a Cuban artist, do you ever feel a sense of distance from your roots—or has that distance actually deepened your connection to them?

The distance from my motherland has deepened my connection to my roots. I left Cuba when I was 11 years old. Thanks to my parents, I was able to retain my identity and culture while growing up in Texas. They always played Cuban music at home, and my dad taught me how to dance. They still have a great collection of LP’s by Celia Cruz, Beny Moré, Trio Matamoros, Bola de Nieve, Fajardo y sus Estrellas, etc. My mother took care of passing on the poetry of Cuba and Latin America by reciting the many poems she had memorized since her youth. Later in life, I studied poetry and literature at the University of Mexico City and then graduated from the University of Texas at Austin, where, of all things, I started singing Brazilian music.

Coming to live in the Netherlands opened new doors to the music of Cuba. It was here that I first had a chance to listen to many Cuban bands performing live, such as Cachao, Los Papines, Sierra Maestra, NG La Banda, Los Van Van, Chucho Valdés and Irakere, and later Afro-Cuban All Stars, Buena Vista Social Club, and many more artists.

So it was also in the Netherlands that I returned to Cuban music, thanks to a group of Cuban musicians I met there around the year 2000. We formed a band playing Cuban country music, which toured and recorded the album Alma Guajira. So yes, living in Amsterdam brought me closer to my musical roots.

This album travels across so many countries and traditions. Were there any musical cultures in this project that challenged you or pushed you outside your comfort zone?

Yes, I had the adventurous idea to sing a Venezuelan merengue, ‘De Tanto Quererte’, also known as ‘Merenson’. This song is in a fast 5/8 rhythm, a groove very different from what I was used to. I did songs in 5/4 and 7/4 before, but this one was of a different nature. It is part of the folklore that comes easily to those who grow up with it… I had listened to Venezuelans singing this style, and they make it sound so easy – for me, it was a challenge. Double bassist Samuel Ruiz from Venezuela helped me figure it out and saved me on this one; it was great to have an expert on board. Luckily, ‘Merenson’ also goes back and forth between merengue and son, so I could always step into familiar grounds. At the end of the arrangement, we added a coro-pregon section that gave it a Cuban touch.

With Esquina 25, there’s a real sense of chemistry and trust. How did you build that musical family?

Esquina 25 came together in 2004 as part of a project fusing Cuban music with Latin jazz. Marc Bischoff and I started the band, with me as bandleader and him as musical director. We have had various members join throughout the years. The current line-up has been steady since 2013. Everyone in the group enjoys the music we are creating and has a lot of freedom to express themselves. It is this sense of freedom and trust that keeps us together – there is mutual love and respect.

“We’re not trying to recreate traditions—we’re in dialogue with them.”

Your collaboration with Marc Bischoff seems central to the album. What kinds of conversations—musical or otherwise—shaped your work together?

Marc and I talk about what music interests us, and also about what musical subjects we can bring to our audience. The album Mujeres de Luna, with songs by Cuban female composers performed by the band and a string quartet, was a very exciting idea for me as a singer and also for Marc, who was looking forward to arranging for strings. He later said that I was the only Cuban doing country music in this part of the world, so I should focus on that genre. This led to the album Tierra, with songs composed by Cuban country singers and some of my own compositions. For the new album, Caminos, he did the arrangement of my song ‘Nevando en Camagüey’. He also recorded most of the album at his studio and mixed it. It is a great privilege for me to work with him.

‘Nevando en Camagüey’ is such an evocative title. What does that image mean to you emotionally?

‘It’s snowing in Camagüey’ is indeed quite a title since we know that it never does…

I visited the wonderful city of Camagüey on my first trip back to Cuba. My lyrics are inspired by the memory of this trip, conversations with family and friends, and stories based on the history and folklore of this beautiful region. Famous are the ‘tinajones’, huge earthenware jars, which the inhabitants have used for hundreds of years to collect rainwater. The legend says that those who drink the water from the tinajones will fall in love with someone from Camagüey and never leave the city again.

But I was also inspired by my aunt Mirita in Havana, who would always use “Está nevando en Camagüey” as a code when she dared to share by telephone any news about our family members living in the USA.

Estrella Acosta - Caminos - Nevando en Camagüey
Estrella Acosta – Caminos – Nevando en Camagüey

When you interpret songs by composers like Marta Valdés or Armando Manzanero, what do you look for first—the story, the harmony, or something more intangible?

I look for the intangible – how the song hits my guts, my soul, my imagination. I also look at how the music and lyrics transcend musical genres. For example, Marta Valdés was a fan of jazz music, and you can hear it in her bolero on the album, ‘No Hagas Caso’, and in many of her compositions.

There’s a beautiful balance in your music between structure and freedom. Do you ever feel tension between those two forces?

I feel that structure and freedom complement each other. One cannot be musically free without some structure and cannot work with structure without venturing into free spaces. Our Dutch/American saxophonist, Efraïm Trujillo, plays on most of the album’s tracks and is a very sensitive soloist who knows how to balance structure and freedom in his improvisations.

The guest artists bring very distinct voices to the album. Were there moments in the studio that surprised you or changed the direction of a piece?

Recording the duo pieces with the great guitarist from Austin, David Pulkingham, was a nice surprise. We had never played together before. I gave him two songs, ‘Voy Apagar la Luz’ by Armando Manzanero and ‘Milonga Paraguaya’ by Jorge Drexler from Uruguay. We came together a few days later and recorded in an intimate setting, at close distance, and it turned out to be a very organic experience and gave the music a special feel.

The making of the Uruguayan candombe, ‘Ahí va la Comparsa’, was also a very spontaneous experience: A Cuban, a Brazilian, a German and a Venezuelan were all guided here by our Uruguayan drummer/percussionist Enrique Firpi – an essential core member of the band. It was a thrill to sing together with my close friend from Uruguay, Beatriz Aguiar. Recording these songs that had just come out of the arranger’s pot gave a fresh twist to the music.

The contributions of our guest artists on various tunes all gave the album extra spice. We were fortunate to have Elizabeth Fadel on accordion and Paulinho Paes on guitar, both from Brazil, as well as Jorge Glem (cuatro), Gerardo Rosales (percussion) and Michael Simon (trumpet) from Venezuela participating in this project. They were all essential in painting our Latin American landscape.

“Music without borders is not a concept—it’s a lived experience.”

You describe this as “music without borders.” Has your own idea of identity—musical or personal—changed while making this album?

Both my musical and personal identity have changed, so I see myself more as a world citizen. However, they say you can get the girl out of the country, but you can never get the country out of the girl.

Yes, I feel like discovering more music from the Americas, but I also would like to focus on boleros, a style that I have always loved. And talking about a genre of music that transcends borders, boleros have been created not only by Cuban, Puerto Rican and Mexican composers, but also by people from many other nations, including Brazil, which has contributed boleros with the beautiful sound of its Portuguese language.

What did this project teach you about yourself as an artist?

This project taught me many lessons, but most of all, never to give up learning new things and exploring my musical potential.

When you listen back to Caminos now, do you hear it as a destination—or as the beginning of something new?

Listening to Caminos now, I feel that I am standing at the beginning of a new road, a new path; it is the start of something new.

Thank you, Estrella, for sharing your thoughts with our readers.

Thank you for the opportunity.

PLAYLIST (8 TRACKS) – ESTRELLA ACOSTA: CAMINOS – A LATIN AMERICAN LANDSCAPE
TRACKLIST

1. De Tanto Quererte (featuring Jorge Glem & Gerardo Rosales) [Merenson]
2. Dunas (featuring Paulinho Paes & Marc Bischoff)
3. Nevando en Camagüey (featuring Efraïm Trujillo & Gerardo Rosales)
4. No Hagas Caso (featuring Marc Bischoff, Samuel Ruiz & Efraïm Trujillo)
5. Que Nadie Sepa Mi Sufrir (featuring Elizabeth Fadel & Efraïm Trujillo)
6. Voy a Apagar la Luz (featuring David Pulkingham)
7. Ahi Va la Comparsa (featuring Beatriz Aguiar & Enrique Firpi)
8. Milonga Paraguaya (featuring David Pulkingham)

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