Interviews
In Conversation with Drummer, Percussionist, Bandleader Bobby Sanabria
Legendary drummer, percussionist, Bronx Walk of Fame artist and native Nuyorican S.O.B. (Son of the Bronx) Bobby Sanabria brings his incredible 24 piece multi-Grammy nominated Multiverse Big Band featuring vocalists Janis Siegel (The Manhattan Transfer), Antoinette Montague (Duke Ellington Orchestra), and (multi-lingual powerhouse star of the Sugar Hill Nutcracker) Jennifer Jade Ledesna, to the Hostos Center for the Arts & Culture for an unforgettable evening honoring Puerto Rico’ s greatest composers.
I had the opportunity to talk to Bobby Sanabria via zoom, as part of our promotion for his upcoming concert in The Bronx, New York this Saturday, June 22nd, 2024.
Hi Bobby, what’s happening at Hostos Center this coming Saturday?
Hi Danilo, I’m going to be leading my multi-Grammy nominated Multiverse big Band at the Hostos Center for the Arts and Culture in the South Bronx at Hostos Community College, which is located at 450 Grand Concourse, right on the corner of E 149th St. It’s actually like four or five blocks away from where I grew up, which is amazing, and I’ll be there as I mentioned just now, with my multi-Grammy nominated Multiverse Big Band, which features 3 incredible vocalists, Janice Siegel from the Manhattan Transfer, Antoinette Montague from the Duke Ellington Orchestra, and I’m incredibly lucky to have a third singer, Jennifer Jade Ledesna, who’s half Puerto Rican, half Dominican but all Bronx, because she was born and raised in the Bronx, and she’s multilingual. She sings in eight languages, speaks 4 fluently: English, Spanish, Portuguese and Italian. And it’s amazing when she sings in Portuguese because she sounds like a baiana, somebody from Bahia, in Brazil, because she’s lived there. And she was a former student of mine at the New School University many years ago, so I’m very proud of her. She also lived in Paris, so she speaks fluent French. I’m very lucky as a band leader, and I must say, I love to brag about the members of the orchestra because I feel I have the finest, most versatile musicians in the world.

My pianist is Silvano Monasterios from Venezuela, and David Dejesus on lead alto, he’s a Nuyorican, a former student of mine at the High School of Music & Art, Andrew Gould on 2nd alto, Peter Brainin on 1st tenor and Jeff Lederer on tenor saxophone, he’s also a virtuosic clarinetist. On this game, we will have Alberto Toro, who is a compatriot from Puerto Rico, he was also the co-leader and founder of Viento de Agua. He’ll be subbing for Jeff on tenor. Danny Rivera is half Italian, half Puerto Rican. He doesn’t speak Italian, he doesn’t speak Spanish, and he barely speaks English. So, he’s a baritone.
And then on the trumpets, our regular trumpet section is Max Darché lead, Matt Hilgenberg on 2nd trumpet, but Nathan Eklund will be subbing for him. And then Irv Grossman will be subbing for Jonathan Challoner, and our regular 4th trumpet is Andrew Neesley.
Our regular lead trombone is Dave Miller, but for this concert Joe Fiedler, who’s the composer for all the music on Sesame Street and a former member of the orchestra, will be subbing for our lead trumpet. Noah Bless who is a compatriot of mine from the Mario Bauzá Afro-Cuban Jazz Orchestra is our 2nd trombone. Armando Vergara is a former student of mine at the Manhattan School of Music, he’s on 3rd trombone and on bass trombone I have the ubiquitous Chris Washburn. Leo Traversa is on electric bass and who’s missing? Our regular percussionist Orestes Abrantes (on congas) and Matthew Gonzalez (on bongo and percussion) can’t make the performance, but I have two incredible subs, Christian Rivera, who has recorded with the band and has played in the band before (congas and bongo), and the Great Willie Torres, who’s an incredible singer as well. We use a variety of percussion; a lot of people just think we play Cuban rhythms, but we play Venezuelan rhythms, Puerto Rican rhythms, Colombian rhythms, Brazilian rhythms. So, we use all that battery of percussion.
That’s a lot of people, more than 20.
Yes, more than 20 and with me. You’re missing me. I’m the commander of the ship. The Starship Enterprise, so to speak. I’m on drums. I do some vocals and percussion and I’m leading the band. So that’s that. Oh, I’m missing two more members, our regular flautist and piccolo player, that’s an extra chair in the band, she’s Gabrielle Garo, but she’s on tour with Karol G right now, I’m very proud of her. She was a former student of mine at the New School. And Ben Sutin is on electric violin. He was a former student of mine at the Manhattan School of Music, so that makes 23 musicians, and with me it’s 24 and people ask me, well, why do you have the piccolo flute chair and why do you have the electric violin? Because I’m a big fan of two incredible artists, Quincy Jones, he always used to put the flute or piccolo on top of the band, and on his big band writing, and Don Ellis, the Great futurist. He had a small string section electrified at his orchestra. That’s why I have Ben on electric violin. He stomps out a pedal and all of a sudden, he sounds like a whole chamber ensemble on stage, you know, so it’s a formidable band, we sound different than any other big band that’s out there. Our repertoire is different than any other big band out there. And you’ll hear it in full force. And we’ll be honoring Puerto Rico’s greatest composers, as well as honoring Duke Ellington, celebrating his 125th birthday.
How ‘bout the Danza Fiesta Ensemble?
Yes! the premiere folkloric Puerto Rican dance troupe, led by Gilda Rivera is going to appear with us as well. We’ve worked with them in the past and they’ve choreographed five, six numbers with us, so it’s going to be fantastic.
Yeah, a great addition to the show. Fantastic!
Oh Yeah!

Let’s talk about Hostos Center, about the importance of this institution for Latino arts and culture in New York.
We’re going to be playing at a beautiful, gorgeous theater, the Performing Arts Center at Hostos that was founded by Wally Edgecombe, who’s actually of Cuban descent. His family is, I believe, from Great Britain, but he was born in Cuba and his name is Edgecombe. But we like to call him Edge Cumbé (a dance from Africa), you know, and he just recently retired, but he was the mastermind and genius behind Hostos Center. And I would say that is probably the busiest performing arts center not only on the East Coast, but in the entire country, there’s always three or four events happening every day at Hostos. It’s amazing, amazing, amazing. From lectures, concerts, there’s a lot of graduation ceremonies happening there now because school has ended in New York City, but it’s amazing the variety of music that Hostos has presented, mostly showcasing the Afro-Latin diaspora. When I say that, I mean Dominican based music, Venezuelan based music and from Puerto Rico, Cuba, etc., and jazz. So that’s a very important thing because as you well know, Danilo, we need always a platform for our culture and music to be represented and Hostos gives us that, we don’t have many of those platforms available to us. Occasionally you will see artists like Miguel Zenón at one of the major jazz clubs or even myself, but that’s fewer and far between.
That’s true.
Yes, and on a regular basis Hostos Center provides us that opportunity. Especially when we do big events like this. And this concert is actually happening because I was thinking about the Puerto Rican Day parade, which just recently happened and believe it or not, about a month before I called up Felix Arocho, who’s the Director at Hostos, he was mentored by Wally, so, I told him I got an idea for a concert, and he goes, when do you want to do it? just like that. And he goes, what about? And I said, well, you probably don’t have anything available, but I was thinking June because of the Puerto Rican Day parade. He goes, let me see what I can do. He calls me back within five minutes. What about June 22nd? Great! I’ll move something around. And that’s how it happens, when you have that kind of support behind you, it’s incredible.
That’s amazing!
Absolutely! So, kudos to Felix, and Wally, because all the great people that are sponsoring these types of events across the country don’t get the credit that they deserve. The musicians, we get the accolades, but the back behind the scenes people, the producers need that too.
That’s very important.
It is absolutely important, yeah!

Anything else happening with Bobby Sanabria and his various artistic personas?
You might know this but myself and my partner in crime, the great Elena Martinez, I like to call her the funky folklorist… Well, with Elena, we are the Co-artistic directors of the Bronx Music Heritage Center, which is a small street level art gallery space that hold about 60 to 80 people with a stage, we have full back line. And there we’ve done everything that you could possibly think of that’s done at Jazz at Lincoln Center, but in miniature form. Everything from lectures, classes on capoeira, percussion, mambo dance classes. I hate to use that word, salsa, but you know…
Wow!
And film screenings, panel discussions, you name it. I did some incredible interviews, one of them I’m very proud of, I interviewed Eddie Palmieri for almost 3 hours. And he revealed some things a lot of people don’t know about and that was very recent. Another interview I’m proud of is the one I did with Tito Matos, Héctor Tito Matos, who recently passed away. We did some live performances as well during the pandemic. I survived and kind of thrived through it because I got called up to do a lot of live streaming events. I got work as a side person and did a few concerts with my guitar chair. I’m sure in Canada performance arts organizations and individual musicians dealt with things in a similar way.
Yes, you’re right.
One of the things that the pandemic did was that it made us all miss live music and performances, but we evolved so much technologically speaking. I never would have thought that I’d be doing a live streaming concert, or doing interviews online…
That was unthinkable before…
So, we’ve been the Directors of the Bronx Music Heritage Center for the last 12-13 years. And we also in that space provide rehearsal space for the community at a very low cost, and if anybody needs it to have meetings or small art gallery showings, things like that, we provide it at a very low cost.
The Bronx Music Heritage Center is the cultural wing of Wedco, which is the Women’s Housing Economic Development Corporation. It’s a nonprofit that was founded like almost 30 years ago by an incredible housing lawyer, Lancy Bieberman.
And now we are putting the finishing touches on a 250-seat theater called The Bronx Music Hall, which is located on E 164th St. and in the South Bronx on Washington Place, and the Bronx Music Hall is on the 1st floor… It’s literally 11 blocks away from where I grew up in the South Bronx. The Bronx Music Hall has 250 seats, but we have an outdoor stage as well and, in the back, we have a small amphitheater that holds about 100 people. The outdoor stage holds about 200 people, 150 people comfortably. We have a huge lobby and art gallery space. October 18th is our opening. It’s gonna be three days of opening celebration. On the first night it will be on Monster Hip Hop, on the 19th, it’ll be yours truly, with the Multiverse Big Band. And on Saturday the 20th it’ll be a Family Day. We’re going to be having family events throughout the whole day, so I’m really looking forward to that.
If you would have told me when I was a student at the Berklee College of Music when I was a freshman in 1975, hey, you know what, man? One day you’re going to be the the director of this Performing Arts Center… And I’m just laughing. Get out of here, man. You know, I’m very proud because now I get to give back to my community in full force. So, we’re very, very excited and we’re going to have artists, world class artists. I’m hoping to bring people like Hilario Durán, who’s from Toronto, Jane Bunnett, my sister, and many other great artists. And that’s just from the Latin oriented side of jazz.

I wanted to ask you what’s going on with your group Ascensión. I heard it is still active. Any plans of recording a new album?
Everybody is asking me that. We just recently did a concert in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, at the Performing Arts Center. We played in Brownsville, Texas. The Latin Jazz Festival down in Brownsville. So yes, we’re doing a couple of performances here in the summer in New York City. Ascensión, I would say that we are the oldest continuously run Latin oriented jazz group as far as New York City and probably in the country, because we started when I was in high school. I formed the band, and I was in high school from 71 through 75, so it’s coming close to 50 years now. That’s a pretty big thing.
Yeah, you should celebrate it.
We were doing things before Jerry González and the Fort Apache Band, and Jerry was my brother, and Andy too. Yeah, but we kind of got lost in the sauce in the jazz world because nobody paid attention to us. I mean, we got some coverage in the Village Voice, and in certain magazines like Latin Beat that existed at the time. But for the most part, the mainstream jazz world didn’t know of our existence. That has changed a bit because of the big band, the Multiverse.
Right. You have a bit more exposure now.
Some people ask me in interviews about what other things I’ve done, and I start talking about us, and some of those interviewers tell me, how come I didn’t know about this? I go man. We’ve been playing, doing things, we played at the Heineken Jazz Festival, we played a bunch of things. I tell them, you know you haven’t been listening. I mean, you haven’t been paying attention, which is a big beef that I have with the mainstream jazz press, and I have to publicly state right now because anytime I get to use the bully pulpit, I do use it. Yeah, I feel that it’s an infamia. As our Italian brothers and sisters would say it. In the recent issue of Downbeat magazine celebrating their 90th anniversary, they printed a list of the 90 most important jazz musicians in history and their contribution. Not one Latino musician was mentioned, not even Mario Bauzá, if at least they would have mentioned him. Then I was OK. But be that as it may, we still have a long way to go, and we have to, when these injustices happen, we have to voice them. Because if you think… I’ll say this publicly. Again, Jazz would not have evolved to where it is today without the contributions of Latino musician. Because New Orleans is the northernmost city of the Caribbean, and there were Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Haitians there, And Mexicans, too. We got to keep saying it. Oh my God. Over and over.
Absolutely!
Absolutely, man. So, if you can write a letter to downbeat and say, hey, what’s up with that?
For sure!
Anything else happening soon?
Yeah. I have another concert at the Cutting Room on June 26, a small version of the Multiverse Big Band, I call it the Miniverse. We’re gonna be accompanying Charles Fox, the legendary TV composer, movie composer… He started his career as a piano player with Ray Barretto, Joe Quijano and Tito Puente.
Great talking to you Bobby.
Thank you for the opportunity. We’ll see you at Hostos Center on June 22nd, with the Multiverse Big Band and Danza Fiesta.

Photos courtesy of Bobby Sanabria
Featured
Inside Cortadito: José Guzmán’s Intimate Snapshot of Afro-Caribbean Heritage
Introduction: The Rhythmic Map of José Guzmán
For guitarist and composer José Guzmán, the distance between the academic rigours of a Doctoral degree and the street-level pulse of a Puerto Rican bomba circle is non-existent. Born and raised in Ponce, Guzmán has spent his career translating the “hard 90-degree pivot” from rock-and-roll to jazz into a sophisticated, percussion-driven language. His latest project with The Afro-Caribbean Jazz Collective, Cortadito, serves as a vibrant proof of concept for his “drum-first” philosophy—an approach that demands the composer master the hand drums before ever picking up the pen.
In Cortadito, Guzmán departs from the traditional jazz quintet by daringly removing the drumset entirely. By centring the barril and congas, he creates a sonic space that smells of the Caribbean sea and feels like the cobblestones of Old San Juan. It is an intimate, unfiltered snapshot of heritage that balances the intensity of son montuno and songo with the tender, lived-in emotions of the bolero.
In this candid conversation, Guzmán opens up about the “flying without a net” energy of the Collective, his responsibility to the legacy of masters like Rafael Cortijo and William Cepeda and why he believes that to truly play Latin Jazz, you must first learn to speak through the skin of the drum.

“The title Cortadito is a snapshot of my heritage and upbringing… I was flooded with memories of the mountain view from my home in Ponce, the cobblestones in Old San Juan…”
On Cortadito (2025 JGB Music)
Cortadito has clearly resonated with critics and audiences alike—what was the central artistic vision behind this album, and how does it build on or depart from Fiesta at Caroga?
Fiesta at Caroga was a great way to find my artistic voice, while Cortadito has refined my vision. After Fiesta at Caroga, I felt that I needed to connect the audience with my Puerto Rican roots. I composed tunes that put the Puerto Rican folkloric rhythms of bomba front and center (“Holande Pa Uste” and “Witches Dance”) while expanding on our repertoire with son montunos, cha cha, boleros, and songo.
The title Cortadito evokes something intimate yet culturally specific. What does the title represent for you musically and personally?
It’s a snapshot of my heritage and upbringing. As I wrote the music for the album, I was flooded with memories of the mountain view from my home in Ponce, the cobblestones in Old San Juan, and the smell of the Caribbean sea. The imagery of the empty coffee mug in the album cover, the intensity of the music, and the gentleness of boleros are staples on the island.
Can you walk us through your compositional process for this album? Did the pieces emerge from rhythmic concepts, harmonic ideas, or lived experiences?
A mixture of all of the above. I purchased several percussion instruments (congas, Puerto Rican barril, etc) and dove headfirst into learning the lineage of the drum and playing all the patterns that I write music for. If I can’t play it, I won’t write it. It was common to hear teachers at the Puerto Rico Conservatory say, “to play Latin jazz, you gotta play the hand drums,” and that is common to hear in interviews of the masters as well. Some ideas came to me as I practiced my basic patterns and became useful with the help of practice tools such as Agustin Espina’s Latin Percussion Grooves or the mobile app PercussionTutor.
As for the lived experiences portion, it’s very personal storytelling. The idea for Roberto Cantoral’s “El Reloj” came to me as I took care of my father before he passed away, and I always dedicate the song to my audience because we all share that feeling of losing a loved one. Others, such as “A Sunny Kind of Day” and “Orchard Downs,” are based on my day-to-day life experiences in Puerto Rico and the state of Illinois.
How did you approach balancing Afro-Caribbean rhythmic traditions with modern jazz language on this recording?
While I was writing, I felt a strong responsibility to write melodies that swing with the clave, the drum patterns, and, at times, the dancer. The harmonic canvas tends to reveal itself afterwards. My writing process varies; at times I’ll have a melody come to mind, record a voice memo (or more), and then I’ll find the rhythm that fits. Other times, I’ll play the drums and let the pattern lead me to a new melody.
Were there particular tracks on Cortadito that presented unique challenges or breakthroughs during recording?
Recording is always tedious because, unlike playing live music and the “flying without a net” feeling that comes with it, you can easily get stuck in your head, striving to create a good product. I am lucky enough to say that I surrounded myself with very positive friends who were also enthusiastic in the process. “El Volcán” and “Holandé Pa Usté” were challenging but fun to record.

“I am building on the foundation laid out by Rafael Cortijo’s Time Machine and William Cepeda… pushing the boundaries of what was Latin jazz at the moment of publication.”
On Musical Identity & Heritage
Your music reflects a deep connection to Puerto Rican rhythms. How do you translate traditional forms into a contemporary jazz context without losing their essence?
As a fan of salsa music and traditional folklore, I wanted to keep the dance aspect of the Afro-Caribbean rhythmic traditions and adorn it with melodies that percolate from the hand drums. Even the decision of not having a drumset in the recording was made in an effort for the percussion section to shine and pop out. In live shows, I’ll have drummers set up a timbale/drumset similar to what Samuel Formell (Los Van Van drummer and leader) uses, but I still prefer the timbales with a kick drum for the studio.
During the barril solo on “Witches Dance”, I actually had someone come into the studio and dance a traditional bomba improvisation for the drummer to play to. Having that solo kept the spirit of the dancer, which was really important for me.
Growing up in Ponce, Puerto Rico, what early musical influences shaped your identity as a guitarist and composer?
My influences are a wide spectrum of genres. I grew up listening to Fania Records, Puerto Rican folklore artists, and the boleros of El Trio Los Panchos, but in my teenage years, I learned guitar by playing classic rock and mid 90’s trending rock bands. By then, I found myself playing in several rock bands with my neighbors, writing music and playing shows. It wasn’t until I was 18 years old when I discovered Al Di Meola, Paco de Lucia, and John McLaughlin’s Saturday Night in San Francisco that I pivoted to jazz, and that pivot was a hard 90 degrees into the genre.
How do you see your work contributing to the broader narrative of Afro-Caribbean jazz today?
I am building on the foundation laid out by Rafael Cortijo’s Time Machine (1973) and William Cepeda’s Puerto Rican jazz discography (1992 onwards), to name a few. Both artists focused on bringing the rhythms of bomba and plena into the jazz realm, pushing the boundaries of what was Latin jazz at the moment of publication.

“The beautiful (and intimidating) part about the Collective is the rotating cast of musicians… in 2025 alone, we collaborated with over 40 musicians across 8 states.”
On Bandleading & The Afro-Caribbean Jazz Collective
As the leader of The Afro-Caribbean Jazz Collective, what qualities do you prioritize when assembling and directing your ensemble?
If we think of it as a pyramid, sight reading is at the top, followed by improvisational skills (especially over clave), and well-rounded musicianship. This is because we don’t get a chance to rehearse as much as I’d like to, so it’s crucial to get the melody and form with as little or no rehearsal time. Currently, I have a core group that travels with me, and I’ll pick up musicians who live in the area we are visiting. I gravitate towards players who play or have played in salsa bands, and the results are always fun!
Your group has developed a strong identity over several albums—how has the band evolved since its inception?
The beautiful (and intimidating) part about the Collective is the rotating cast of musicians who are well-versed in Latin jazz while also exposing strong musicians to playing clave music. This serves as a place for players to grow, as well as my own growth by receiving feedback from Victor Garcia, Roy McGrath, Tito Carillo, Zach Rich, and Matt Shevitz. This is also due to the size of the group and the hectic schedule of musicians with families and other priorities. In 2025 alone, the Collective collaborated with over 40 musicians while playing across 8 states.
What does collaboration look like within the Collective? Do your band members contribute to arrangements or compositional ideas?
It’s always evolving. When I started the ensemble, I would have people bring in arrangements. The last track in Cortadito (“El Volcán”) was written and arranged by tenor sax player Brian Stark. Brian is a strong composer and arranger for a big band, and I fell in love with the tune. Trombonist Ben Carrasquillo is the arranger of our EP version of Nat King Cole’s “Love for Sale”. Several musicians have asked me about writing for the ensemble, and I always welcome it, but I won’t pressure folks to write. Ever since the release of Fiesta at Caroga, I usually consult ideas with members, bring the arrangements to a show, and members will contribute with ideas to enhance the melodic weight or sections.

On Education & Artistic Development
You’ve pursued extensive academic training—from the Puerto Rico Conservatory to a DMA in Jazz Guitar Performance. How has your formal education shaped your artistic voice?
It was very important in my development since my early years as a guitarist were a combination of playing my favorite songs at home and jamming songs with my neighbor, no music theory or formal lessons. The Conservatory is where I developed the foundation for playing jazz and my first exposure to listening to classical music (chamber and orchestral) on a daily basis. Southern Illinois University in Carbondale exposed me to writing atonal music, taught me to analyze it, and provided me with my first opportunity to write for a big band every couple of months. At the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, I got to write a lot of songs and arrangements for a robust instrumentation guided by a faculty whose legacy is found in albums by Arturo Sandoval, Woody Herman, and many more. The latter also taught me the value of research in academic settings, and I am interested in adding the Afro-Puerto Rican voice to that conversation as well.
As someone deeply rooted in both performance and composition, how do you balance intellectual rigour with emotional expression in your music?
Writing music is similar to writing stories; there’s a narrative that makes an audience feel. For me, there has to be a connection between ideas and not just juxtaposing melodic ideas to create sections. If I can sing the melody while playing clave or drums, then I move forward. My favorite tool when composing is the eraser, especially when overcomplicating melodic statements or when I get a bad case of writer’s block.
On Career & Looking Ahead
You’ve worked across genres—from jazz to chamber music to rock—and collaborated with diverse artists. How have these experiences influenced your approach as a bandleader?
It exposes me to different approaches of ensemble performing, ways of conducting an ensemble, addressing the audience, learning about the music industry from peers, and exchanging arranging techniques that would’ve been “learned” from a book. These projects also influenced my thought process when composing, creating a setlist, and deciding what to do (or not) in the bandstand, and it allows me to get comfortable being on stage.
Looking ahead, what new directions or projects are you most excited to explore with The Afro-Caribbean Jazz Collective?
The success of Cortadito has given me the confidence to continue to write a lot of music. I’m excited to go back into the studio in the summer to record new music that is exclusively focused on bomba rhythms alongside Chicago-based bomba ensemble Colectivo Sayba. I’m also writing new tunes for a separate recording session in a similar vibe to Cortadito.
Interviews
Inside Maracanós: Ricardo Bacelar on Friendship, Freedom and Brazilian Identity
Brazilian pianist, composer and producer Ricardo Bacelar opens up about Maracanós, his ambitious new collaboration with legendary percussionist Airto Moreira and special guest Flora Purim.
In this exclusive interview, Bacelar reflects on how the album emerged organically during the filming of a documentary at Jasmin Music’s studio in Fortaleza (the capital of Ceará, a state located in northeastern Brazil), where creativity flowed through improvisation, friendship and artistic trust. He discusses building what he calls “a film without images,” blending Brazilian rhythms, orchestral textures, electronics and spontaneous musical interaction.
Bacelar also speaks about Airto’s enduring legacy, Flora’s spiritual vocal presence, the symbolism behind the album title, and why protecting artistic freedom in an algorithm-driven music industry remains essential.
“Art needs risk, surprise, contradiction, silence and emotional density,” Bacelar says.
Read our full conversation on Maracanós, one of the most adventurous Brazilian jazz releases of the year.

“Airto approaches music with the spirit of a child discovering sound for the first time.”
Maracanós brings you together with the legendary Airto Moreira, one of the most influential Brazilian musicians in jazz history. How did this collaboration first come about, and what made this the right moment for you both to create an album together?
This collaboration emerged very naturally through our friendship and through the documentary project we were developing around Airto and Flora at Jasmin Studio. During the filming sessions, we spent many hours together inside the studio environment, talking about music, listening to sounds, and experimenting with rhythms and textures. At a certain point, the creative process itself became stronger than the original plan. We realized there was an album being born there organically.
I believe the timing was special because we were all completely open artistically. Airto carries an extraordinary musical freedom, and I was interested in creating a sonic universe where Brazilian music, improvisation, cinematic atmospheres, and contemporary production could coexist without limitations. Maracanós became the result of that encounter.
You’ve described the project as being born organically during the filming of the documentary. Can you take us back to those sessions at Jasmin Studio in Fortaleza and describe the atmosphere that led to the creation of Maracanós?
The atmosphere was extremely creative and immersive. Airto and Flora stayed with us in Fortaleza for an extended period, and the studio became almost like a living organism. Music happened all day long. Sometimes ideas would emerge during rehearsals, sometimes during conversations, and many times while the cameras were rolling.
Jasmin Studio is inside my home, so there is a very human and intimate dimension to the recordings. We were surrounded by Brazilian light, food, conversations, nature, silence, and deep musical exchange. That emotional proximity created trust, and trust creates freedom. I think you can hear that spirit throughout the album.
The album appears to embrace freedom, spontaneity and experimentation, qualities that have defined Airto’s career for decades. How did you balance structured composition with improvisational freedom during the recording process?
For me, composition and improvisation are not opposites. They complement each other. Some pieces began with harmonic structures or rhythmic ideas I brought to the sessions, but once the musicians entered the emotional space of the music, we allowed the compositions to breathe.
Airto has an incredible instinct. He transforms rhythm into narrative. So I tried to create an environment where spontaneity could happen without losing the identity of the pieces. We recorded many moments in a very open way, preserving imperfections, interactions and
emotional reactions. That human unpredictability became part of the language of the album.
Your production approach combines acoustic instruments, synthesizers, percussion and strings in a very cinematic way. What was your sonic vision for Maracanós, and how did you build that immersive soundscape?
I wanted the album to feel almost like a film without images. A sonic landscape where Brazilian rhythms could coexist with orchestral textures, electronic atmospheres, improvisation and silence.
The production was built very carefully inside Jasmin Studio, which is designed for immersive audio and deep acoustic detail. We used analog and digital elements together, combining percussion layers, piano, synthesizers, strings and spatial textures, almost like painting with sound.
I’m very interested in emotional depth and timbre. Sometimes a texture can say more than a melody. The immersive aspect of the production became fundamental in creating this sensation of movement, memory and atmosphere.

“Flora transforms emotion into sound very naturally… Airto approaches music with the spirit of a child discovering sound for the first time… They have an almost telepathic connection.”
Flora Purim makes a special appearance on “Voo da Tarde.” What did she bring to that track creatively, and what was it like having both Flora and Airto together in the studio?
Flora brings something very unique. She transforms emotion into sound very naturally. Her voice carries spirituality, freedom and an unmistakable musical identity. On “Voo da Tarde,” she added a dreamlike dimension that elevated the piece emotionally.
Having Flora and Airto together in the studio was deeply inspiring. They have lived and created music together for more than six decades, and there is an almost telepathic connection between them. Sometimes they communicated musically with just a glance. Witnessing that inside the studio was very moving.
Airto is receiving the prestigious National Endowment for the Arts honour this year. Did working so closely with him give you new insights into why his influence on jazz and Brazilian music remains so profound?
Absolutely. What impressed me most was not only his musical genius but his permanent curiosity. Airto approaches music with the spirit of a child discovering sound for the first time. He is always searching, always experimenting.
His influence goes far beyond percussion. He expanded the vocabulary of rhythm inside jazz and brought Brazilian musical identity into a truly global conversation without losing authenticity. Working closely with him made me understand even more deeply how innovation and freedom are connected in his artistic philosophy.
The title Maracanós is intriguing. What is the story behind the album’s title, and what does it symbolize artistically or culturally?
The title was created by Airto Moreira himself, and I love the poetic and symbolic dimension it carries. Maracanós combines the words “maraca”, “Maracanã”, and the pronoun “nós”, which means “we” in Portuguese. The title, therefore, brings together rhythm, Brazilian identity, collectivity and movement at the same time.
There is something deeply Brazilian in the sound of the word, but also something open and universal. It evokes percussion, nature, birds, popular energy, community and encounter. I think this perfectly reflects the spirit of the album, a musical encounter built collectively through friendship, freedom, improvisation and cultural exchange.

“Maracanós represents friendship, freedom, improvisation and cultural exchange.”
The Kalimera String Quartet appears on two tracks with arrangements by Liduíno Pitombeira. Why was it important to incorporate strings into this project, and how did they expand the album’s musical vocabulary?
The strings introduced another emotional layer to the album. I wanted certain moments to have greater harmonic depth and cinematic expansion, almost like opening a new emotional horizon inside the music.
Liduíno Pitombeira created arrangements with enormous sensitivity. He understands both classical language and Brazilian musical phrasing, which allowed the quartet to interact organically with percussion, improvisation and the rhythmic complexity of the album.
Your label, Jasmin Music, has become an important platform for Brazilian artists across multiple generations. How does Maracanós reflect your broader vision as a producer and label founder?
Maracanós reflects very clearly what I believe Jasmin Music represents: artistic freedom, sonic excellence, cultural identity and creative risk.
I’m interested in building projects that preserve musical depth and emotional truth. We live in a time where music is often reduced to speed and algorithms. Jasmin was created to protect artistic identity and long-form musical experiences. This album embodies that philosophy completely.
Airto mentioned using his voice throughout the sessions in spontaneous ways when he wasn’t playing percussion. Were there moments during the recording process that surprised you creatively?
Many moments surprised me. Airto uses his voice almost as an extension of rhythm and emotion. Sometimes he would suddenly begin vocalizing textures or rhythmic ideas while listening to playback, and those moments became part of the atmosphere of the recordings.
There was a constant sense of discovery in the studio. Some of the most beautiful moments happened unexpectedly.
The album moves away from commercial formulas and embraces artistic risk. In today’s music industry, where algorithms often shape listening habits, how important is it for you to protect creative freedom?
For me, creative freedom is essential. Music cannot exist only to satisfy algorithms or consumption patterns. Art needs risk, surprise, contradiction, silence and emotional density.
I believe audiences still deeply desire authenticity. Perhaps the industry sometimes underestimates listeners. My commitment is to create music that has identity and emotional permanence, even if it follows a more difficult commercial path.

“Music still has the power to create emotional bridges between cultures, generations and human experiences.”
The upcoming documentary directed by Jom Tob Azulay adds another dimension to this project. What can audiences expect from the film that they may not hear on the album itself?
The film reveals the human and emotional dimension behind the music. Audiences will witness the creative process in real time: conversations, rehearsals, improvisations, memories, tensions, humor, affection and the intimacy of artistic creation.
It is not only a documentary about music. It is also about friendship, artistic legacy, exile, Brazil, spirituality and the passage of time.
You’ve collaborated with artists such as Gilberto Gil, Roberto Menescal, Toninho Horta and many others. Where does Maracanós fit within your artistic evolution?
I see Maracanós as one of the most mature and free projects of my career. It synthesizes many things I’ve explored throughout the years: Brazilian harmony, cinematic language, sophisticated production, improvisation and emotional storytelling.
At the same time, it opened new creative doors. Working closely with Airto and Flora expanded my perception of spontaneity and musical freedom.
The album cover artwork by Fernando França reflects a symbolic connection between Brazil and Africa. How important was visual storytelling in shaping the identity of this release?
Visual identity is extremely important to me. I see albums as complete artistic objects, not only collections of songs.
Fernando França created images that connect mythology, ancestry, Brazil, Africa and spirituality in a very powerful way. The artwork reflects the same emotional and symbolic layers that exist in the music itself.
Finally, what do you hope listeners around the world take away from Maracanós, especially those discovering your music, or perhaps even Airto and Flora’s legacy, for the first time?
I hope listeners feel an emotional connection and freedom. I hope the album invites people into a deeper listening experience, where music becomes atmosphere, memory and emotion.
For younger audiences discovering Airto and Flora, I hope Maracanós reveals the timelessness of their artistic vision. For those discovering my work through this project, I hope they perceive the commitment to authenticity, sonic beauty and Brazilian musical identity.
I believe music still has the power to create emotional bridges between cultures, generations and human experiences. That is ultimately what Maracanós represents for me.
Interviews
Estrella Acosta Charts New Paths on “Caminos – A Latin American Landscape”
Amsterdam-based Cuban-born vocalist Estrella Acosta continues to expand her artistic horizons with Caminos – A Latin American Landscape, a vibrant and far-reaching recording with her ensemble Esquina 25. A Latin Grammy nominee, Acosta has long been celebrated for her deep connection to Cuban and Brazilian traditions. With Caminos, she goes further—tracing a musical map that spans the breadth of Latin America.
From Mexico to Argentina, and from Afro-Caribbean grooves to Brazilian lyricism, the album embraces what Acosta describes as “music without borders,” brought to life through a collective of international musicians based in the Netherlands.
With Caminos, Estrella Acosta and her band Esquina 25 offer more than a collection of songs—they present a living, breathing dialogue across cultures, traditions, and musical languages. It is a project that doesn’t simply travel across Latin America—it connects it.
In Caminos, Estrella Acosta paints a musical landscape of Latin American traditions. She takes you on the road to experience songs from her motherland as well as Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, Peru and Uruguay, all the way to Argentina. You will hear in this album formats ranging from intimate duos to bigger sounds with her band Esquina 25 and special guests, bringing the listener a variety of rhythms and creative arrangements. Music to listen to and dance to!
In this conversation, Acosta reflects on artistic identity, collaboration, and the evolving language of Latin jazz.
Caminos – A Latin American Landscape
Now available on HearNow

“Caminos – A Latin American Landscape is about movement—not just geographically, but emotionally and culturally.”
Caminos feels deeply personal. Was there a specific moment or realization that set this project in motion for you?
Over the years, I’ve had the opportunity to discover and sing many songs from Latin America while living in the USA, Europe and also during my travels through Central and South America. Being a voting member of the Latin Recording Academy, every year during voting season, I have the chance to listen to a great variety of music by its members. This has expanded my horizons and revived my interest in exploring the folklore and music from this part of the American continent.
As a musician and anthropologist, I always like to go back to the past, dig into the roots and check out the music of people around the planet. In the past, I explored the music of Cuba and Brazil, and now I want to get closer to other countries of the Americas. Luckily, I could form a band, Esquina 25, consisting of excellent international musicians who understand its character and spirit – they speak the language of these various traditions.
For this album, the first song that caught my attention was ‘Que Nadie Sepa mi Sufrir’, also known as ‘Amor de mis Amores’, which was written in 1927 as a Peruvian waltz by an Argentinian composer, Angel Cabral, with lyrics by Enrique Dizeo. The song was first popularized by Argentinians Hugo del Carril and Alberto Castillo, and then recorded by many more singers. In 1957, with French lyrics by Michel Rivgauche, Edith Piaf made it a big hit in Europe. Of course, what fascinated me about this song was its beautiful melody and lyrics, and the challenge was to make this song, which had been recorded by so many artists, our own. I asked one of my favorite arrangers, Venezuelan trumpetist Michael Simon, to create something different. He wanted some spoken words in it, so this allowed me to feature my mom reciting a few lines of poetry. This song got my project in motion.
Living in Amsterdam as a Cuban artist, do you ever feel a sense of distance from your roots—or has that distance actually deepened your connection to them?
The distance from my motherland has deepened my connection to my roots. I left Cuba when I was 11 years old. Thanks to my parents, I was able to retain my identity and culture while growing up in Texas. They always played Cuban music at home, and my dad taught me how to dance. They still have a great collection of LP’s by Celia Cruz, Beny Moré, Trio Matamoros, Bola de Nieve, Fajardo y sus Estrellas, etc. My mother took care of passing on the poetry of Cuba and Latin America by reciting the many poems she had memorized since her youth. Later in life, I studied poetry and literature at the University of Mexico City and then graduated from the University of Texas at Austin, where, of all things, I started singing Brazilian music.
Coming to live in the Netherlands opened new doors to the music of Cuba. It was here that I first had a chance to listen to many Cuban bands performing live, such as Cachao, Los Papines, Sierra Maestra, NG La Banda, Los Van Van, Chucho Valdés and Irakere, and later Afro-Cuban All Stars, Buena Vista Social Club, and many more artists.
So it was also in the Netherlands that I returned to Cuban music, thanks to a group of Cuban musicians I met there around the year 2000. We formed a band playing Cuban country music, which toured and recorded the album Alma Guajira. So yes, living in Amsterdam brought me closer to my musical roots.
This album travels across so many countries and traditions. Were there any musical cultures in this project that challenged you or pushed you outside your comfort zone?
Yes, I had the adventurous idea to sing a Venezuelan merengue, ‘De Tanto Quererte’, also known as ‘Merenson’. This song is in a fast 5/8 rhythm, a groove very different from what I was used to. I did songs in 5/4 and 7/4 before, but this one was of a different nature. It is part of the folklore that comes easily to those who grow up with it… I had listened to Venezuelans singing this style, and they make it sound so easy – for me, it was a challenge. Double bassist Samuel Ruiz from Venezuela helped me figure it out and saved me on this one; it was great to have an expert on board. Luckily, ‘Merenson’ also goes back and forth between merengue and son, so I could always step into familiar grounds. At the end of the arrangement, we added a coro-pregon section that gave it a Cuban touch.
With Esquina 25, there’s a real sense of chemistry and trust. How did you build that musical family?
Esquina 25 came together in 2004 as part of a project fusing Cuban music with Latin jazz. Marc Bischoff and I started the band, with me as bandleader and him as musical director. We have had various members join throughout the years. The current line-up has been steady since 2013. Everyone in the group enjoys the music we are creating and has a lot of freedom to express themselves. It is this sense of freedom and trust that keeps us together – there is mutual love and respect.
“We’re not trying to recreate traditions—we’re in dialogue with them.”
Your collaboration with Marc Bischoff seems central to the album. What kinds of conversations—musical or otherwise—shaped your work together?
Marc and I talk about what music interests us, and also about what musical subjects we can bring to our audience. The album Mujeres de Luna, with songs by Cuban female composers performed by the band and a string quartet, was a very exciting idea for me as a singer and also for Marc, who was looking forward to arranging for strings. He later said that I was the only Cuban doing country music in this part of the world, so I should focus on that genre. This led to the album Tierra, with songs composed by Cuban country singers and some of my own compositions. For the new album, Caminos, he did the arrangement of my song ‘Nevando en Camagüey’. He also recorded most of the album at his studio and mixed it. It is a great privilege for me to work with him.
‘Nevando en Camagüey’ is such an evocative title. What does that image mean to you emotionally?
‘It’s snowing in Camagüey’ is indeed quite a title since we know that it never does…
I visited the wonderful city of Camagüey on my first trip back to Cuba. My lyrics are inspired by the memory of this trip, conversations with family and friends, and stories based on the history and folklore of this beautiful region. Famous are the ‘tinajones’, huge earthenware jars, which the inhabitants have used for hundreds of years to collect rainwater. The legend says that those who drink the water from the tinajones will fall in love with someone from Camagüey and never leave the city again.
But I was also inspired by my aunt Mirita in Havana, who would always use “Está nevando en Camagüey” as a code when she dared to share by telephone any news about our family members living in the USA.

When you interpret songs by composers like Marta Valdés or Armando Manzanero, what do you look for first—the story, the harmony, or something more intangible?
I look for the intangible – how the song hits my guts, my soul, my imagination. I also look at how the music and lyrics transcend musical genres. For example, Marta Valdés was a fan of jazz music, and you can hear it in her bolero on the album, ‘No Hagas Caso’, and in many of her compositions.
There’s a beautiful balance in your music between structure and freedom. Do you ever feel tension between those two forces?
I feel that structure and freedom complement each other. One cannot be musically free without some structure and cannot work with structure without venturing into free spaces. Our Dutch/American saxophonist, Efraïm Trujillo, plays on most of the album’s tracks and is a very sensitive soloist who knows how to balance structure and freedom in his improvisations.
The guest artists bring very distinct voices to the album. Were there moments in the studio that surprised you or changed the direction of a piece?
Recording the duo pieces with the great guitarist from Austin, David Pulkingham, was a nice surprise. We had never played together before. I gave him two songs, ‘Voy Apagar la Luz’ by Armando Manzanero and ‘Milonga Paraguaya’ by Jorge Drexler from Uruguay. We came together a few days later and recorded in an intimate setting, at close distance, and it turned out to be a very organic experience and gave the music a special feel.
The making of the Uruguayan candombe, ‘Ahí va la Comparsa’, was also a very spontaneous experience: A Cuban, a Brazilian, a German and a Venezuelan were all guided here by our Uruguayan drummer/percussionist Enrique Firpi – an essential core member of the band. It was a thrill to sing together with my close friend from Uruguay, Beatriz Aguiar. Recording these songs that had just come out of the arranger’s pot gave a fresh twist to the music.
The contributions of our guest artists on various tunes all gave the album extra spice. We were fortunate to have Elizabeth Fadel on accordion and Paulinho Paes on guitar, both from Brazil, as well as Jorge Glem (cuatro), Gerardo Rosales (percussion) and Michael Simon (trumpet) from Venezuela participating in this project. They were all essential in painting our Latin American landscape.
“Music without borders is not a concept—it’s a lived experience.”
You describe this as “music without borders.” Has your own idea of identity—musical or personal—changed while making this album?
Both my musical and personal identity have changed, so I see myself more as a world citizen. However, they say you can get the girl out of the country, but you can never get the country out of the girl.
Yes, I feel like discovering more music from the Americas, but I also would like to focus on boleros, a style that I have always loved. And talking about a genre of music that transcends borders, boleros have been created not only by Cuban, Puerto Rican and Mexican composers, but also by people from many other nations, including Brazil, which has contributed boleros with the beautiful sound of its Portuguese language.
What did this project teach you about yourself as an artist?
This project taught me many lessons, but most of all, never to give up learning new things and exploring my musical potential.
When you listen back to Caminos now, do you hear it as a destination—or as the beginning of something new?
Listening to Caminos now, I feel that I am standing at the beginning of a new road, a new path; it is the start of something new.
Thank you, Estrella, for sharing your thoughts with our readers.
Thank you for the opportunity.
TRACKLIST
1. De Tanto Quererte (featuring Jorge Glem & Gerardo Rosales) [Merenson]
2. Dunas (featuring Paulinho Paes & Marc Bischoff)
3. Nevando en Camagüey (featuring Efraïm Trujillo & Gerardo Rosales)
4. No Hagas Caso (featuring Marc Bischoff, Samuel Ruiz & Efraïm Trujillo)
5. Que Nadie Sepa Mi Sufrir (featuring Elizabeth Fadel & Efraïm Trujillo)
6. Voy a Apagar la Luz (featuring David Pulkingham)
7. Ahi Va la Comparsa (featuring Beatriz Aguiar & Enrique Firpi)
8. Milonga Paraguaya (featuring David Pulkingham)
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